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It's all about SPEED
« on: July 11, 2010, 07:10:41 AM »
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 08:25:26 AM »
TMuscle does have some great articles if you can get past the flashy supplement ads.

I'll have to read this in depth, I just skimmed it.

I've been using a Push/Pull workout of theirs and it seems to work well.  Maybe it's time to give this one a try.
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 11:42:36 AM »
Wlfdg,

who would u recommend for learning how to do the oly lifts (dvd or book).  the owner of the gym I go to seems to be lacking any knowledge or cleans (he watched me do some power cleans and gave pointers, next day left knee sore and I believe it was from my knees extending past toes) and definately on snatches and I end up asking a guy that is really the only one in there working cleans.  I hate to have to use a book or dvd to learn these moves so I don't f myself up, but it seems no one in the gym I go to knows them well.
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 12:39:30 PM »
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 02:14:54 PM »
Quote from: Wlfdg on July 11, 2010, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: walleye on July 11, 2010, 11:42:36 AM
Wlfdg,
who would u recommend for learning how to do the oly lifts (dvd or book).
The Oly lifts are a big part of Crossfit. That's a good place to start.

I'm all for crossfit and is worthy of my attention, but I've seen some downright dangerous form come out of their gyms.

I tried to learn the lifts from books, Jim Schmitz's video series from IronMind, and tons of other resources. Eventually I just looked up the USAW weightlifting folks in my area found a coach, he got me in touch with guys in my area to train with, and now I have a free gym to train at with years of experience, bumpers, a platform, etc.

So, if you are in the states - see if you can find a coach. Let them know ahead of time you want to learn the lifts, but don't necessarily intend to compete. http://weightlifting.teamusa.org/

http://weightlifting.teamusa.org/
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 04:19:37 PM »
Mark Rippetoe / Starting Strength are the defacto standard for olympic lifting form.
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 11:10:13 PM »
Thank you for this speed article.
I hope to put it to good use.
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 05:26:16 AM »
Which one do I follow, I watched the Dan John video that was on GB's crossfit journal and he says to have your bodyweight on heels and knees behind toes at the start, Staley is advising weight on forefoot and knees above the toes?
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 05:45:01 AM »
Quote from: walleye on July 12, 2010, 05:26:16 AM
Which one do I follow, I watched the Dan John video that was on GB's crossfit journal and he says to have your bodyweight on heels and knees behind toes at the start, Staley is advising weight on forefoot and knees above the toes?
Which ever grooves best for you.
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2010, 05:48:29 AM »
I thought that was going to be the answer, just suprised on the variations between the coaches.
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2010, 05:59:59 AM »
Quote from: walleye on July 12, 2010, 05:48:29 AM
I thought that was going to be the answer, just suprised on the variations between the coaches.
Different body types have different leverages. I was taught the wrong way for my body type. I've been doing it all wrong for 35yrs.
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Re: It's all about SPEED
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 03:53:51 PM »
Quote from: Wlfdg on July 12, 2010, 05:45:01 AM
Quote from: walleye on July 12, 2010, 05:26:16 AM
Which one do I follow, I watched the Dan John video that was on GB's crossfit journal and he says to have your bodyweight on heels and knees behind toes at the start, Staley is advising weight on forefoot and knees above the toes?
Which ever grooves best for you.

I just attended an Oly seminar over the weekend and this coach--sorry I can't remember his name (Steve....from Chatanooga TN)---and he taught weight on ball of foot and knees over toes.  I'm 5'2" so I don't have far to travel but those of you who are taller that stance might be an issue.  I'm still learning everything myself but that's my 2 cents on the subject.

As for as how to learn the lifts I really like going to crossfit and having a coach correct me.  These lifts are so technical that it's very easy to do them incorrectly and not know it and then form bad habits.  IMO it's better to have a coach for a while at least until you start feeling comfortable doing the lifts on your own....again, that's my 2 cents.
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