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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2010, 09:41:29 PM »
I definitely don't know enough to have a good opinion, but the guy who wrote the write-up on Starting strength suggests adding weight when you can hit 10/12 reps per set.

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Pullups/Chinups

Question - Should I do pullups or chinups?

Doesn't matter, really. Use whatever you're strongest at. The delineation between chinup and pullup is overemphasized in importance. Most newbs will be strongest with a grip that is parallel (i.e. hammer grip), with a hand spacing just closer than shoulder width.

Whatever you do, pick one and stick with it and add weight once you can hit 10/12ish reps in a set. Go hard on these, don't be afraid to use a little kick on your last rep, and have fun.

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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2010, 12:56:09 AM »
Start changing grips to progress to one arm and/or add a weight vest.


I say add weight. Vest is awesome. A belt will do as well.

:D  was thinking adding weight would be the way to go, i suspect 1 of the reasons i'm getting the extra reps is the 10kg less weight i'm lifting. 


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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2010, 02:23:07 AM »
Tuesday

Swimming

1050 m in 26 minutes

Split: 550m in 11m 15.

This was my quickest swim so far, which was surprising as it'd feel it.   The pool was too busy and it felt like was was dragging myself through the water, oh well :)

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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2010, 02:24:15 AM »
I definitely don't know enough to have a good opinion, but the guy who wrote the write-up on Starting strength suggests adding weight when you can hit 10/12 reps per set.

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Pullups/Chinups

Question - Should I do pullups or chinups?

Doesn't matter, really. Use whatever you're strongest at. The delineation between chinup and pullup is overemphasized in importance. Most newbs will be strongest with a grip that is parallel (i.e. hammer grip), with a hand spacing just closer than shoulder width.

Whatever you do, pick one and stick with it and add weight once you can hit 10/12ish reps in a set. Go hard on these, don't be afraid to use a little kick on your last rep, and have fun.

Source: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=13263289&postcount=19


Thanks for info, will follow wlfdg's advice for now

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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2010, 12:27:50 AM »
Haven't trained since Tuesday, stupid work schedule.  I think i have about another month of being on the road a lot for work then things will settle back to more normal being away 1-2 days a month.

Will be back in the pool tomorrow AM :D

Looking to include more explosive movements in my training, so my 'short' swim session will include about 50% of the time spent sprinting and i want to add in a gym session going clean & push press and squat jump work.

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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2010, 03:16:39 AM »
Sunday
Swim

Total: 1000m in 29 mins

Continuous: 650m in 15m 30s

After the first 650m i did 7 sets of 25m flat out front crawl, 25m slow recovery, short rest.


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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2010, 10:27:41 AM »
Monday

First workout of revised programme

Clean and Press

2 x 3 \ bar
2 x 3 \ 40 kg
5 x 3 \ 50 kg

I haven't done these for ages, clean felt strong and quick but really struggled to get good leg drive on the press which made them feel really heavy.

Pull ups
5 x 5 \ Bw

Yes, nailed these :D :D  next week with added weights.

Squat Jumps

5 x 5 \ Bw

May do these holding on to a couple of dumbbells next week. 

Upright Row
2 x 3 \ 30 kg
3 x 3 \ 35 kg

Not done these in a while so working out what weight to use.  Worked on exploding the weight up.

Enjoyed that session, basically everything except the pull ups was done explosively.  Body definitely feels like it's been worked.

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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2010, 05:34:01 PM »
JMan, FWIW- I would do the jump squats first, they will prime your CNS for the clean & push press. Upright rows are overkill after doing cleans.

I would organize the session as such-
Superset- 60 sec. rest between sets. Alternating movements will give you longer rest therefore allowing you to use more weight. Your metabolism will still be raging.
1A.Jump squats 5X5
1B. Pullups 5X5

2. Power Clean & Push Press- 2 warm up sets, working reps > 25 however you get there, ie. sets of singles or clusters if necessary.
If your leg drive is failing you on press try doing a squat jerk

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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2010, 08:12:08 AM »
JMan, FWIW- I would do the jump squats first, they will prime your CNS for the clean & push press. Upright rows are overkill after doing cleans.

I would organize the session as such-
Superset- 60 sec. rest between sets. Alternating movements will give you longer rest therefore allowing you to use more weight. Your metabolism will still be raging.
1A.Jump squats 5X5
1B. Pullups 5X5

2. Power Clean & Push Press- 2 warm up sets, working reps > 25 however you get there, ie. sets of singles or clusters if necessary.
If your leg drive is failing you on press try doing a squat jerk



Thanks wlfdg, seeing as it's loosely based on one of your posts i'll take your advice ;).  My only concern is how much doing the Jump Squat \ Pullups before cleans will effect my strength on those.

The 25+ working reps is done in set of reps until explosiveness drops off?

Off to youtube squat jerk not heard of those before.
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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2010, 08:39:21 AM »
"My only concern is how much doing the Jump Squat \ Pullups before cleans will effect my strength on those."
At first it might be a little tough but your body will adapt and it will benefit your clean & press by priming your CNS. You'll be stronger and more explosive.

"The 25+ working reps is done in set of reps until explosiveness drops off?"
Exactly!

"Off to youtube squat jerk not heard of those before."
Pyrros Dimas is the master of the squat jerk.
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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2010, 09:15:02 AM »
"My only concern is how much doing the Jump Squat \ Pullups before cleans will effect my strength on those."
At first it might be a little tough but your body will adapt and it will benefit your clean & press by priming your CNS. You'll be stronger and more explosive.

"The 25+ working reps is done in set of reps until explosiveness drops off?"
Exactly!

"Off to youtube squat jerk not heard of those before."
Pyrros Dimas is the master of the squat jerk.


Thanks.

I found a video of Pyrros and now understand what you mean, will give that a try if i'm struggling next week

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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2010, 09:03:48 AM »
Thursday
Swimming

Total: 1840m in 48 minutes

continuous: 720m in 17 minutes.

Good swim, rest periods were very short.


Friday
Deadlift
1 x 2 \ 60 kg
1 x 2 \ 80 kg
5 x 5 \ 123.75 kg

Struggled to get through these, they weren't heavy my head just wasn't in it.

Military Press
5 x 5 \ 43.75 kg

Easy :D 

Was going to do some Dips but i think my upper body had had enough for the week.  Looking forwards to mondays explosive lifting session

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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2010, 01:58:02 AM »
Monday

Squat Jumps supersetted with Pullups
1 minutes rest between each set.

1A. Jumps Squats
1 x 5 \ BW
4 x 5 \ BW + 10kg

1B. Pullups
4 x 5 \ BW + 5kg
1 x 4.5 \ BW + 5kg

The hardest bit about this was having to go with only 60 seconds rest between sets, which is way less than i'd normally rest.

And I am kinda shocked that i got that many reps on pullups, and slightly annoyed in could not quiet get rep no 5 on the last set.  Next time

Clean and Press

1 x 3 \ bar
1 x 3 \ 40 kg

Working reps: Total 26 reps @ 52.5 kg

3, 3, 3, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3

sets in red were done as clusters

Ok this was a real mental exercise, seemed like a lot of sets.  Leg drive was better this week, only seemed to fade as i got tired during a couple of sets. 

For what looked like a fairly short 'easy' training session this was actually pretty tough.  I'm finding that lately the main issue is a mental one, pushing my body to do those extra set / reps even when i know it's actually physically not an issue.  Hopefully this will get to be less of a problem as my body adapts.


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Re: J's workout journal
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2010, 07:29:00 AM »
Great work Jman!

That test of mental toughness is one of the great gifts of training. It should often be a part of your training at one point or another. I feel it is a way to gauge that I'm moving towards progress.
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« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2010, 10:03:16 AM »
Great work Jman!

That test of mental toughness is one of the great gifts of training. It should often be a part of your training at one point or another. I feel it is a way to gauge that I'm moving towards progress.

Thanks, and i suspect you are right.  I haven't challenged myself mental like that for a long time in the gym, and i haven't made significant progress in the gym for a long time.

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