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Offline Warren Dew

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2009, 12:00:57 PM »
I guess there's just some RDA adjustments to be made on Paleo; calcium, sodium and potassium for sure. I just don't want to run into the problem I had as a vegan as I mentioned above, when you start trying to rationalize a diet that is unhealthfully exclusionary.

That makes sense.  I'd note that paleo does provide all the nutrients that you're looking for; it's just hard to get all the way to 100% of the RDA on all of them.

I also remember when the USDA recommended "minimum daily requirements" as opposed to "recommended daily allowances"; when they switched, they increased all the numbers by 50% or so.  That's why I don't worry too much about getting the RDA of everything every day, as the minimum requirements are lower.


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Re: Potassium
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2009, 01:11:49 PM »
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I'd note that paleo does provide all the nutrients that you're looking for; it's just hard to get all the way to 100% of the RDA on all of them.

That's true, nothing is terribly low, like it would be in a vegan diet. The nutrients that are low tend to still be around 75%.

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I wonder about the mineral water because maybe the added minerals are forcing fluids through your system faster than if it were plain water (or minerals as a solid food) putting a heavier load on your kidneys…losing fluid too fast can cause cramping. 

I wonder about this too....I'll try giving up the mineral water for a while to see if that helps.

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 03:23:53 PM »
I had not noticed this post before. I read a research paper related to potassium and our evolutionary path a while back ago:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17275582
The Evolution-Informed Optimal Dietary Potassium Intake of Human Beings Greatly Exceeds Current and Recommended Intakes
Anthony Sebastian, Lynda A. Frassetto, Deborah E. Sellmeyer, R. Curtis Morris Jr
Volume 26, Issue 6, Pages 447-453 (November 2006)

This clinical study also puts  high emphasis on potassium for the paleo diet:

http://www.yaboga.com/paleo-metabolic.pdf
Metabolic and physiologic improvements from
consuming a paleolithic, hunter-gatherer type diet
LA Frassetto, M Schloetter, M Mietus-Synder, RC Morris Jr and A Sebastian
European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2009), 1–9

The RDA is not too high.
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Re: Potassium
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2010, 07:53:39 PM »
So, it's not Paleo but Blackstrap Molasses is one of the best sources for potassium according to my limited understanding of nutrition and foods...

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2010, 09:28:32 PM »
I wouldn't worry too much about it.  Marika eventually found that potassium was not her problem; her muscle cramps went away when she dropped dairy, specifically cheese.

If you want a paleo source of potassium, bananas are good.  Plantains also work if you're like ajmesa and want a species of banana that feels more consistent with your cuban heritage.
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Re: Potassium
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2010, 09:33:58 PM »
Cantaloupe is high in potassium also.
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Re: Potassium
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2010, 10:29:26 AM »
Wow, how interesting that eating cheese would cause cramping!  There is so much I have to learn about nutrition!

Very good, bananas and cantaloupe it is then!  Plantains are delicious although I live in the Seattle area and not too many of those growing in these parts!  lol!  Lucky ajmesa!

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2010, 02:11:50 PM »
Wow, how interesting that eating cheese would cause cramping!  There is so much I have to learn about nutrition!

Some sensitivities are different for different people.  I just remember that Marika spent months on and off trying to figure out the leg cramps, and they finally went away for good when she cut the dairy completely, and I thought I'd mention it since she started this thread.

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2010, 04:29:48 PM »
I see. I remember she had some cramps but couldn't remember how she got rid of them.

If anyone has a problem with not getting enough potassium drinking carrot juice is the easiest way to increase your potassium intake without increasing carbs too much (if you are trying to limit your carbs). People with high BP should definitely give it a try.

LeanerN, plantains are awesome! Some might have to be a little careful because they are carb-heavy. I have them quite often. They are also really cheap where I live which is a major plus (college student), I can buy them 3x$1 or 6x$1 when they are on special. I have not been able to find and organic source though.
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Re: Potassium
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2010, 01:10:02 PM »
Hey guys, I found this study related to potassium and thought it was interesting. Found it through mark's daily apple:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/plants-preserve-muscle-mass/

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/87/3/662
Alkaline diets favor lean tissue mass in older adults
Bess Dawson-Hughes, Susan S Harris and Lisa Ceglia
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 87, No. 3, 662-665, March 2008

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2010, 09:02:14 AM »
I have always had low potassium. Doesn't matter how much I eat fruits I don't seem to get the potassium from them. So, after I started to use salt with extra ptoassium (like pan-salt which I am currently using) the things just turned and amazing things happened. I had constipation which was gone after potassium salt. Had some more energy and annoying dry mouth and lips disappeared. :)

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2010, 05:10:18 PM »
not paleo,but K+ supplements are cheap via "drugstore" types. can't belive you guys have low K+. might try getting blood level labs from your doc. to see where you really are. bear in mind that serum K+ levels are a snapshot and not an indicator of ongoing/steady state status of any electrolyte. excess water intake in the setting of a normal pituitary and kidneys will put any electrolyte out of balance. similar to that seen with all of the "loop" diuretics used to treat CHF. most  "medical" K+ supplements are KCL. some,probably better in this setting, are K gluconate. i belive cordain's objection to legumes is based on excess CL- issues. and acid/base balance issues that that raises. also,excess  water intake will play hell with CA++/MG++/K+ balance. if i were REALLY,rationally concerned about any electrolyte levels,i would access that thru conventional lab studies,not chase some nebulous RDA intake recommendations. bearing in mind,that is,that serum electrolye levels do not,necessisarily,reflect total body stores/status.   

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2010, 09:28:13 PM »
A good source of potassium foods contain significant amounts of potassium in relation to its calorie content and contributes at least 200 milligrams of potassium in a format chosen to serve. Potassium is an essential mineral and electrolyte maintenance. Because of the disease, however, some people need to limit their dietary intake of potassium and some people may really need to increase consumption.

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Re: Potassium
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2010, 08:02:36 AM »
plantain chips (if you can find them) rule!

I'm eventually going to find a way to make them at home. I've already made parsnip chips in coconut oil once or twice, and they are awesome in their own right.
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