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Offline samjohn

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« on: September 02, 2010, 01:27:29 AM »
I don't believe anyone should be buying stock. Not only do manufacturers often hide a lot of salt, preservatives and thickeners in it, it is also very easy to make for yourself.

If you plan ahead it is even free.

At the top of my freezer I have a container that I throw anything stockworthy into. This means bones of anything, the vegetable offcuts of onions, carrots, celery etc. Also meat scraps if you have any, I never do as I have a dog.

Wait until you've got a good amount of bones etc then throw it all in a big pot full of water, with pepper and any other herbs you want to put in, then leave it for as long as possible.

I'm a bit of a nut in that I'll let it boil down then add more water for ages till I've got every single bit of flavour out of my scraps. Then if I have time I'll take that and reduce it even further in another pot until I have a very thick stock reduction. Saves space.

As far as bones I only make one distinction, ocean or not ocean. Chicken, beef, lamb or pork bones all go in together, but I'd never add fish.
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Re: Stock
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2010, 06:15:10 AM »
Excellent - stock making is more of a winter activity for me. Fish stock is great but should only be simmered for a short time, 10-15 minutes.

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Re: Stock
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2010, 12:24:05 PM »
Past few months we have lots of beef bone stock.
Got lots of marrow bones.
We remove all the raw marrow and refrigerate it.
Then we make the beef stock from the bones.
We just re-heat some beef stock and plop in the raw marrow during meal times.
I get to feed my wife somewhat rawish bone marrow that way.
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Re: Stock
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2010, 05:04:46 PM »
I like to save bones from meals in my freezer too then put them in the crockpot and let them cook for at least a day.

If I use chicken bones I'll cook them until I can make the larger bones crumble between my fingers. Then I'll put the bones and the liquid in the blender and grind it all up and pour that liquid into mason jars and freeze so I can use over the next couple months.

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Re: Stock
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2010, 06:35:15 PM »
I render and freeze stock too - ice cube or ice block trays are good
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Re: Stock
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 08:33:54 PM »
I'm making up a batch now, does anyone add any ingredients other than bones and the things I listed in the first post?
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 08:47:13 PM »
Only if you have 'em: Celery seed, a few bay leaves, garlic (lots), dried hot pepper flakes, parsely, any and all root vegetable cuttings, pepper, a little sage, rosemary, etc.

I always save chicken necks and organs for stock.

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Re: Stock
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 08:52:20 PM »
Bay leaves, that is the one I was forgetting. Cheers.
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Re: Stock
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2010, 08:17:36 AM »
I've been thinking that I don't often have a turkey or chicken carcass - but I have beef and pork ribs all the time.  Saving them in the freezer until there's enough to be worth making stock from is an excellent idea.

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Re: Stock
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2010, 07:02:14 AM »


I'm a bit of a nut in that I'll let it boil down then add more water for ages till I've got every single bit of flavour out of my scraps. Then if I have time I'll take that and reduce it even further in another pot until I have a very thick stock reduction. Saves space.



Forgive me for this but what do you mean by "reduce it even further in another pot until I have a very thick stock reduction".  I have made chicken stock before but it was pre-paleo and I never knew what to do with all of it.  I'm learning as I go ;)

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2010, 07:43:19 AM »
Simmer or heat it so that even more moisture evaporates, until it's very concentrated.

I made lamb stock recently and it is awesome.  We've been adding it to everything.
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Re: Stock
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2010, 07:47:15 AM »
I've been thinking that I don't often have a turkey or chicken carcass - but I have beef and pork ribs all the time.  Saving them in the freezer until there's enough to be worth making stock from is an excellent idea.

Yeah don't hesitate to use chicken, lamb, beef, pork etc bones all in the same stock. It still turns into a great tasting stock.
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

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Re: Stock
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2010, 09:42:58 AM »
I used to *always* make stock when even I roast something big.  Once I left it over the gas and it boiled down to a horrible, blackened mess.  My housemate was upset about the pan, I was heartbroken over the wasted stock!

I am not making stock at the moment because of my gas bill.  Am I being overly paranoid?
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Re: Stock
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2010, 11:52:33 PM »
I'm making up a batch now, does anyone add any ingredients other than bones and the things I listed in the first post?

Often add onion, carrot & celery, also parsley and sometimes thyme. Chunks of capsicum on occasion.

When done strain the veg and keep for something else, chill and remove the layer of fat for the fat tub and save the stock for cooking or drink as consomme.
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Re: Stock
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2010, 08:30:33 AM »
Just made a chicken in the crock pot yesterday--YUM!  With veggies!

I then took the carcass and miscellaneous and put in back in the crock pot and covered it with water and let it stew from 5pm until 630am.

I strained everything and put the bones in a ziploc and put in the freezer.  The stock I am not sure what to do with .  Do I freeze it in ziplocs as well?  right now it's in my frig.....

BTW---gave my pups some of the meat last night with some of the stock...my Aussie ate his dinner so fast he threw it up later.  I think he had it gone in 3 bites. :o

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