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Offline Lone_woLf

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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2010, 02:58:18 PM »
Weight: 169.6lb (76.93kg)
Fat:         41.8%
Water:     37.1%
Muscle:    32.7%
How are you measuring this?

I have a scale that I got from K-mart for about $40. It has a profile thing where you can enter in your height, sex, and age. In addition to taking your weight, it runs an tiny electric current to measure my fat, water and muscle. It's pretty accurate.

According to below, my fat percentage is between 38 and 43 percent, so not bad.
http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/bfb

That is a slippery slope in my opinion. Firstly the telling yourself cheating isn't a big deal with regards to your goals, and secondly the paying off bad eating with exercise.

If you cheat you shouldn't just go 'oh well, these things happen', you should look at the situation and find out why it happened and take steps to prevent it happening again. Beating yourself up about it is counter productive, but so is just accepting cheating as something that will happen regardless of any other factors.

Different strokes for different folks. Some people respond better to positive reinforcement and some to negative.

Here's a question that is a good indicator of which side you're on: Do you think the universe, as a whole, is a friendly place?

If you are asking me if the glass is half empty or half full. My response is full. Full of water and air. The universe is whatever you make of it.

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So yeah, negative reinfocement works for me. Positive lets me cheat too readily. The thinking that "Oh, that's ok. It happens, I'll move on" gives me an EXCUSE to do it in the future. I begin thinking "I can cheat because then I'll tell myself that 'it happens' and just move on!"

Different situations call for different tactics.

If the temptation is a "Hey, I know, let's eat cookies!" temptation. Usually I can respond with "Mmm, no," and it goes away.

I haven't figured out a way to effectively deal with the ones attached to emotions. Sometimes I'm really stressed out, and then I get fixated on a certain food. And I'll give in because I know it will give me immediate relief. That is just a matter of having other ready options.

Sometimes, I'll play this game called "I'm incompetent. I'll prove it." I get fixated on a certain food, and telling it no is downright painful--like I'm strangling myself. Then after I'm done cheating, I use my failing as a sort of club to beat myself over the head with. In this situation, a cheat without judgment is the quickest, least painful way to defuse the whole thing. During these times I tell myself that I can cheat whenever I need to, but I know that later I won't because I'll be in a better state of mind and will choose weight-loss over whatever is eating me now.
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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2010, 03:05:28 PM »
That is a slippery slope in my opinion. Firstly the telling yourself cheating isn't a big deal with regards to your goals, and secondly the paying off bad eating with exercise.

If you cheat you shouldn't just go 'oh well, these things happen', you should look at the situation and find out why it happened and take steps to prevent it happening again. Beating yourself up about it is counter productive, but so is just accepting cheating as something that will happen regardless of any other factors.

Different strokes for different folks. Some people respond better to positive reinforcement and some to negative.

Here's a question that is a good indicator of which side you're on: Do you think the universe, as a whole, is a friendly place?

Me? I think not. We're one tiny spec of "the universe". Everywhere else is exploding, burning at thousands of degrees C, and hurtling through space at hundreds of miles per hour. Even here people get stabbed, shot, wars are going on all the time, bears kill things, car accidents happen, cats eat mice, etc etc

So yeah, negative reinfocement works for me. Positive lets me cheat too readily. The thinking that "Oh, that's ok. It happens, I'll move on" gives me an EXCUSE to do it in the future. I begin thinking "I can cheat because then I'll tell myself that 'it happens' and just move on!"

As to the universe bit, neither friendly or unfriendly. But with regards to the burning and exploding, most of it is near absolute zero, heat is a statistically rare commodity in the universe. However this could easily re-hijack the thread  and I only just split it off from another hijack a little while ago.
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2010, 05:11:17 PM »
I haven't figured out a way to effectively deal with the ones attached to emotions. Sometimes I'm really stressed out, and then I get fixated on a certain food. And I'll give in because I know it will give me immediate relief. That is just a matter of having other ready options.

Sometimes, I'll play this game called "I'm incompetent. I'll prove it." I get fixated on a certain food, and telling it no is downright painful--like I'm strangling myself. Then after I'm done cheating, I use my failing as a sort of club to beat myself over the head with. In this situation, a cheat without judgment is the quickest, least painful way to defuse the whole thing. During these times I tell myself that I can cheat whenever I need to, but I know that later I won't because I'll be in a better state of mind and will choose weight-loss over whatever is eating me now.

This may sound harsh, but I want to point out that this is not normal. Using food to relieve stress is, more or less, an eating disorder. You need to learn some healthy (or even unhealthy) ways to releave stress: go for a walk, do some pushups, take a bath, go for a drive, have sex, etc (unhealthy: punch a wall, smoke a cigarette, yell, etc). This was the hardest and greatest thing I learned while quitting smoking - that there are other ways to get rid of stress without stepping out for a smoke.



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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2010, 06:45:20 PM »
Makes me wonder if the difference between addictive people and everyone else is lack of diversification in their methods of stress-relief.
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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2010, 07:59:15 PM »
You need to learn some healthy (or even unhealthy) ways to releave stress: go for a walk, do some pushups, take a bath, go for a drive, have sex, etc (unhealthy: punch a wall, smoke a cigarette, yell, etc). This was the hardest and greatest thing I learned while quitting smoking - that there are other ways to get rid of stress without stepping out for a smoke.

I have to post my lack of support for this advice - taking a drive when angry can pose a myriad of obstacles (speeding, road rage etc.), same with sex when angry can hurt your partner. Punching a wall, smoking a cigarette - yes unhealthy, punching a bag no, yelling (righteous anger) is healthy, granted the person on the recieving end deserves it. Bottling in emotions is not a very good habit to get into, if you are mad with someone - let them know, if you are happy, let them know!

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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2010, 08:17:31 PM »
FWIW- The deeper I got into the Paleo WOE the more stable my moods became. Cravings and emotional attachments to food disappeared. Hang tough Lone Wolf!
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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2010, 08:50:05 PM »
Actually I'm doing all right. Today would be one week since I last cheated. Planning a treat tomorrow, probably going to buy myself a new article of clothing...or get the jerky maker off the ground. I have a list of pro-paleo, healthy alternatives from which to choose.
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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2010, 08:15:21 AM »
I relieve stress with  workouts...  instead of eating cookies, knock out a set of tabata burpees :D

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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2010, 01:42:36 PM »
I have to post my lack of support for this advice - taking a drive when angry can pose a myriad of obstacles (speeding, road rage etc.), same with sex when angry can hurt your partner. Punching a wall, smoking a cigarette - yes unhealthy, punching a bag no, yelling (righteous anger) is healthy, granted the person on the recieving end deserves it. Bottling in emotions is not a very good habit to get into, if you are mad with someone - let them know, if you are happy, let them know!

Stress and anger are typically not synonymous. You can be stressed AND angry at the same time, but in general that is not the case for me.



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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2010, 02:45:42 PM »
Stress and anger are typically not synonymous. You can be stressed AND angry at the same time, but in general that is not the case for me.

Good point, though when you mentioned "punching the wall" - I immediately assumed you were talking about anger related stress, which can be a problem for many, when I am stressed I usually am angry I rarely ever tuck my tail between my legs and wallow in self pity. Anyway the point was for people like me who get angry when stressed, try to exercise, punch a bag, listen to some music, lie down (granted you did not know this already), I am merely justifying my aforementioned post.

When I am stressed I never eat, which can be annoying I like to graze throughout the day. Now with college starting up again, I believe it's going to be more difficult.

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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2010, 01:31:06 PM »
2/14/10

weight: 166.6lbs (75.57kg)
fat:         40.9%
water:     38.0%
muscle:   32.9%
BMI:        29.5

What a lovely Valentine's day gift!

That's three pounds lost this week. Granted, I usually weigh myself at night. And I'll probably get in the habit of weighing myself first thing in the morning. Three pounds is still significant, though.

 I got a new tape measurer, it may be the measurer but everything is an average of a 1/2" (1.27cm) smaller. I think I like this new tape measurer. ;)
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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2010, 02:19:33 PM »
I got a new tape measurer, it may be the measurer but everything is an average of a 1/2" (1.27cm) smaller. I think I like this new tape measurer. ;)
Any tape measure you get after a week without cheating is a good tape measure!

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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2010, 11:26:41 AM »
2/14/10

weight: 166.6lbs (75.57kg)
fat:         40.9%
water:     38.0%
muscle:   32.9%
BMI:        29.5

What a lovely Valentine's day gift!

That's three pounds lost this week. Granted, I usually weigh myself at night. And I'll probably get in the habit of weighing myself first thing in the morning. Three pounds is still significant, though.

 I got a new tape measurer, it may be the measurer but everything is an average of a 1/2" (1.27cm) smaller. I think I like this new tape measurer. ;)

Good stuff, makes the not cheating easier :)

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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2010, 04:09:39 PM »
Went to the dentist to get my teeth cleaned. The hygienist said my teeth looked great, despite how long it's been since I've gone last. I had a couple of demineralized spots that have remineralized.

I was out of clean clothes, so I went into my closet and pulled out a pair of pants that I haven't been able to wear in a year. They fit! a bit loose actually.

My new hobby: Closet Shopping.
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Re: Walking Backwards into the Future
« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2010, 04:38:40 PM »
YAHOO!!!! Congrats!  That's exciting!

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