You would have to get an appointment with Dr. Patawaran herself regarding her success with her effeminate / gay patients.  Just sharing her skit.

As for the effeminate 1 year old.  There are obvious little "baklitas" ... little gay / effeminates running around in the streets / slums in Manila.  There were even TV features made to show what parents would do if their little boys were "baklitas".

My research in 2002 then came up with books who called out soy as all bad.  Dr. William Wong calls all soy bad.  And there was a funny fictional story that in the future because of the pervasiveness of soy, society would collapse in ruin because all male characteristics would be eliminated by soy.

So the only thing we changed with our 1 year old son was to eliminate all soy in his diet and ours as well.  No more of that "taho" being sold by those door to door vendors.

So it is me and my wife who conclude that soya was making our son gay. We saw it as clear as day.

Here is a full featured film about a "baklita", gay child growing up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yuQX2fF65E

hear, hear Sassenach.

I think there's some misunderstanding and knee-jerk reactions here, which happens with a loaded topic like homosexuality.

The bottom line in my mind however is that soy benefited from a huge marketing campaign in the 70s to make it seem "healthy", much like margarine did previously.

Soy contains a ton of estrogen, the female hormone, so draw your own conclusions.  I personally avoid soy as much as possible and recommend the same to pregnant women.

Yes I agree that Soy is not good for any human...and yes it increases estrogen in both males and females. 

BUT, homosexuality has been around and documented for centuries!  Alexander the great comes to mind.  They weren't drinking soy milk I can tell you that much.  AND they would have had very little refined sugar on a regular basis.

It's a loaded topic and I don't believe it can or should be cured.  If it were that easy, various religious groups around the world would have lobbyed someone to promote the cure.

A+++++ would buy again.

I also think it's a boatload of crap to think being gay can be "cured". While I'm NOT relating homosexuality to a fetish - no one thinks that diaper fetishes, or foot fetishes can be "cured". People just think "oh, well that guy has a fetish". People don't try to "cure" a guy who likes big breasts or a guy who likes redheads.

But WOAH, put your penis in another man and the rules change.

This isn't about soy. This is about someone thinking that _diet_ causes sexual behavior and assuming it's not a social pattern.

My issue is not with whether someone's homosexual or not.  

My issue is with the theory that sugar and soy would make a child effeminate.  Were that the case, Halloween in the States would turn the nation's child population COMPLETELY girly.  

Maybe it's not a blanket thing for all of the population.
Just like SAD works for some people.
And Cooked Meat Paleo Diet works for some, Raw Paleo Diet Works for me.
Most of us are allergic to wheat, but not the rest of the population.

Maybe soya just completely throws off some people, but not all of the time.
Soya sure made our son effeminate at 1 year old.
I'm very thankful to the authors of those books and websites that pointed to Soya as estrogen loaded.

What's wrong with saying homosexuality is a fetish, kink, or preference? Have you guys been so hounded by political correctness that you can't call a spade a spade? If you're gay, who cares? If you like tig ol' bitties? Who doesn't  Does soy also cause folks to become pedophiles? That's ridiculous. If you injected me with large amounts of estrogen, I may cry at chick flicks and have breasts, but I would still be attracted to women.

Also, human social groups are not like wolves. People naturally pair for several years, then seek new mates as children age. Multiple partners increases the likelihood of your offspring passing on your genes. Yes, there likely was some cheating as the new wore off of the penny. Ever hear of the 7 year itch? But this pairing method gave the offspring a better chance at survival. There have been studies on this and I'm too lazy to link to them.

Also, this way of eating is great for many things health-wise. I think it is important to realize it isn't going to cure every social ill or medical problem. In other words, don't get so carried away with it.

Quote from: lovehammer on March 10, 2010, 07:46:07 AM

People naturally pair for several years, then seek new mates as children age.

More accurately, men naturally seek new mates if it becomes clear that the woman can take care of the existing kids even if the man leaves her in the lurch.

And, humans generally form close-knit social groups with immediate family. This doesn't happen in the US, but the US isn't really a good model for anything these days

Quote from: lovehammer on March 10, 2010, 07:46:07 AM

What's wrong with saying homosexuality is a fetish, kink, or preference? Have you guys been so hounded by political correctness that you can't call a spade a spade?

Your itemized list is a little off. I *did* call it a preference. I *did not* call it a fetish.

A fetish, has connotative meaning that implies it is bad and abnormal. The reason I refuse to call homosexuality a "fetish" is that it is insulting to people who ARE homosexual and I think there are better ways to get a point across than just acting like a jackass.

You seem to have a problem with direct language. If you're going to call me a jackass, call me a jackass.

You're merely semantic splitting hairs. Who ever said fetishes were bad or abnormal? Is this your opinion? And really, who cares what people think? What I am saying is if a person is gay, so be it. Who really cares if it is a choice, fetish, preference, or caused by genetic, hormonal, environmental, developmental factors, or whatever. In the end it doesn't really matter. The person is still gay. They should be allowed to pursue whatever activity makes them happy. You know, "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" that's a notion that will always serve as a great model. No matter what, some intolerant members of society will still hate others because of their behavior. The label you place on it won't change this fact.