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Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« on: July 01, 2010, 08:56:51 AM »
A few observations before I begin:
1.  I need to buy MORE in bulk.
2.  I need a second job to supplement the Paleo lifestyle.
3.  I need to become friends with farmers.

This is Paleo Bootcamp 101 and my feeble attempt to journal what goes down the hatch everyday.  But forgive me if I forget something along the way or ask something silly  ;)

I'm ready to kill it with a skillet... ;D


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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 09:04:03 AM »
I may get chastised for this, but I don't think paleo needs to be expensive. You don't need to buy everything Organic-Grass Fed, Pasture Raised, 100% Free of Everything. I mean, you *should* if you can. But there's nothing wrong with a grocery store steak, except the O3:O6 ratio. Just make sure you eat some fish or take fish oil.

There are SOME fruits and veggies in which buying organic is a good idea, but for the most part it's not the most important thing. The most important thing is that you eat an apple instead of a Snickers bar, organic or not.

Farmers markets, though, are awesome.



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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 09:11:15 AM »
I may get chastised for this, but I don't think paleo needs to be expensive. You don't need to buy everything Organic-Grass Fed, Pasture Raised, 100% Free of Everything. I mean, you *should* if you can. But there's nothing wrong with a grocery store steak, except the O3:O6 ratio. Just make sure you eat some fish or take fish oil.

There are SOME fruits and veggies in which buying organic is a good idea, but for the most part it's not the most important thing. The most important thing is that you eat an apple instead of a Snickers bar, organic or not.

Farmers markets, though, are awesome.

What??!?!  You mean I can't eat a Snickers Blizzard Blast thingie from DQ?!?!?!  JUST KIDDING!!!

Yeah, I would really like to buy everything organic, etc etc but I just can't afford to.  Sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you've got.

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 09:28:41 AM »
Sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you've got.

Good attitude :) If you earn more money in the future then you can start to buy more organic/higher omega 3/free range foods.
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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 09:31:33 AM »
Have you tried localharvest.org? You can look on there for farmers in your area that you can buy a side of beef from. We purchased a brand new 28 cubic ft. freezer and found that it still saved us money even that first year over buying from the grocery store. After butcher cost and everything it is usually about 4-4.5 dollars a pound for the meat (pastured, grass-fed wonderfulness) and that is of course for ALL THE CUTS:) I usually pay that just for ground beef at the store. We ordered 2 whole beefs this year for my family of four and it will be around $2500 for a year's worth of beef in good plentiful proportions.

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2010, 04:54:22 PM »
Have you tried localharvest.org? You can look on there for farmers in your area that you can buy a side of beef from. We purchased a brand new 28 cubic ft. freezer and found that it still saved us money even that first year over buying from the grocery store. After butcher cost and everything it is usually about 4-4.5 dollars a pound for the meat (pastured, grass-fed wonderfulness) and that is of course for ALL THE CUTS:) I usually pay that just for ground beef at the store. We ordered 2 whole beefs this year for my family of four and it will be around $2500 for a year's worth of beef in good plentiful proportions.

I will check into this...thanks.

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2010, 04:57:54 PM »
Today I weighed myself...my scale said 129 so at the gym that probably means ~134....they are usually 5 lbs diff.  Not going by my weight though...just want to feel good in my clothes  ;D  I'm 5'2".

today's stats:

kcal ~1800
protein ~127
fat ~124
cho ~63

Still need to eat more.....
What is all this talk about nightshades?  Meaning what?
I like to use my homemade salsa as condiment..is this okay?  It's all homegrown veggies...

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2010, 06:15:26 PM »
@nightshades

While solanaceae members exist in both the new and old worlds (eggplant species in Africa, gilohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_Eggplant, and bush tomatoes in Australia), some here have found that they are sensitive to the sub-toxic amounts of compounds found in the edible parts of the plants. I myself get my allergies flared when I eat raw bell peppers after I haven't had them for a while, even red. It's not a huge deal for me, so I include them.

 
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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2010, 09:18:08 PM »
Here's a link to a paper on arthritis and nightshades:

http://www.noarthritis.com/research.htm

Based on an elimination diet, I was getting minor arthritis from tomatoes and possibly peppers.  It went away when I eliminated them from my diet.  If you really like tomatoes, it's probably safe to eat them until you're old enough to feel the symptoms.

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2010, 10:37:32 PM »
Here's a link to a paper on arthritis and nightshades:

http://www.noarthritis.com/research.htm

Based on an elimination diet, I was getting minor arthritis from tomatoes and possibly peppers.  It went away when I eliminated them from my diet.  If you really like tomatoes, it's probably safe to eat them until you're old enough to feel the symptoms.


Ahh good link, sent on to my arthritic mother.
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 04:35:13 AM »
Here's a link to a paper on arthritis and nightshades:

http://www.noarthritis.com/research.htm

Based on an elimination diet, I was getting minor arthritis from tomatoes and possibly peppers.  It went away when I eliminated them from my diet.  If you really like tomatoes, it's probably safe to eat them until you're old enough to feel the symptoms.


Ahh good link, sent on to my arthritic mother.

thanks everyone!  Useful information...

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 06:50:29 AM »
Here's a link to a paper on arthritis and nightshades:

http://www.noarthritis.com/research.htm

Based on an elimination diet, I was getting minor arthritis from tomatoes and possibly peppers.  It went away when I eliminated them from my diet.  If you really like tomatoes, it's probably safe to eat them until you're old enough to feel the symptoms.



Pssssht. I had arthritis when I was a kid. Yeah - juvenile arthritis is a real thing. So I think I defeated the rheumatism monster. Osteoarthritis is still a threat for me, though



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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 10:55:27 AM »
Here's a link to a paper on arthritis and nightshades:

http://www.noarthritis.com/research.htm

Based on an elimination diet, I was getting minor arthritis from tomatoes and possibly peppers.  It went away when I eliminated them from my diet.  If you really like tomatoes, it's probably safe to eat them until you're old enough to feel the symptoms.



Pssssht. I had arthritis when I was a kid. Yeah - juvenile arthritis is a real thing. So I think I defeated the rheumatism monster. Osteoarthritis is still a threat for me, though

Depends on the length and severity. For instance, I went on an kayaking trip and gave myself traumatic arthritis,which could definitely be mistaken for juvenile arthritis, but heals itself
The answer to your question is 'eat more fat'.

Stop counting calories. If you are eating Paleo, there is usually no need.

If you are having weight loss issues, it'd be a good idea to start posting a detailed food journal, then everyone can help.

'Anecdotal Evidence' is an oxymoron.

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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 11:17:37 AM »
Depends on the length and severity. For instance, I went on an kayaking trip and gave myself traumatic arthritis,which could definitely be mistaken for juvenile arthritis, but heals itself

Nope. Full blown. I was hospitalized 3 times for a total of a year and a half. Went through chemo and all that to kill it off. Was on steroids for years



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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 05:35:19 PM »
Today was excellent.  No weirdness...just fullness.

Totals:
kcals 1735
pro 150
fat 108
cho 53

Questions:
How many eggs are 'acceptable' for one days consumption?
What other oils are Paleo acceptable?  EVOO & coconut are the only 2 I've been using.  Are sesame and walnut okay?


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Re: Lifestyle of the Rich and Paleo?
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