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Offline el cogollero

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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2010, 02:14:21 AM »
Ok Day 9 - I finally finished off the fish for breakfast (next time I won't buy a kilo just for myself), then went to the market, where I bought half a free range corn fed chicken, some cherries and apricots. I had a big green salad and the cherries for lunch and in the evening I had some grilled chicken - which was delicious, very fatty!

Had a few beers in the evening - got home hungry about 3am and made a 3 egg omelette with tinned tuna.

Kids are back soon - see how we get on, I still have a cupboard full of rice, pasta and beans.
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2010, 04:59:46 AM »
ah yes - on day 9 I also had a plate of chicken livers fried in tallow. So far I'm enjoying this style of eating - it's done strange things to my insides, but I'm willing to wait a while to let it settle down.

How do you veterans reckon I'm doing? Too much/too little meat? I'm presuming that in warm weather I'll need less fat...

Next week I'm going to step up my physical work and slow down on the beer
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2010, 07:38:54 PM »
Very nice video of bullfighting meat vs factory beef

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWWpZ_SpCGM
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2010, 07:58:44 PM »
Quote from: el cogollero on July 17, 2010, 04:59:46 AM
ah yes - on day 9 I also had a plate of chicken livers fried in tallow. So far I'm enjoying this style of eating - it's done strange things to my insides, but I'm willing to wait a while to let it settle down.

How do you veterans reckon I'm doing? Too much/too little meat? I'm presuming that in warm weather I'll need less fat...

Next week I'm going to step up my physical work and slow down on the beer

Rushing right into the fats will definitely trigger some "unique" stomach conditions. These are temporary. To calm them down, I advise eating some high fiber foods as well, root veggies or thick green veggies such as broccoli and asparagus. Beer while on paleo always wrecked my stomach, personally. Switch to wine or hard cider if you absolutely must have a drink.
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 02:48:38 AM »
Thanks for the video goodsamaritan - as it happens I bought some more bullfighting meat yesterday. Thanks as well gnujoshua - I will give beer abstinence a fair trial...

Day 10 was tea only for breakfast - I was up early to get the cave ready for new cave people. Then a trip to market:

bull fillets
horse osso bucco  (plenty of marrow I hope)
2 bunches of spinach
cherries
oranges
lettuce and rocket
2 avocados
6 eggs
turnips
carrots
onions
asparagus

I had the rest of the fantastic chicken for lunch and an avocado, later I made a spinach curry with onions, garlic, coriander, cumin, black pepper, turmeric, cinnamon and nutmeg - I had about half of it then at night I made the rest into an omelette with 2 eggs.

The osso bucco is for a home coming feast for the kids tonight - think I'll just tell them it's "meat".

Also at the market I found a source of cheap rabbit - the usual price is 4.50€ to 6€ per kilo but these were much bigger (older) and were only 2.20€/kilo. Good for a rabbit stew. I'm pretty lucky in that I have a good place for paleo shopping 5 minutes walk from where I live!
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 11:00:11 AM »
I am quite envious of you. The variety of meats anywhere but here amaze me. Americans simply don't have a taste for some of the staples worldwide, such as goat and rabbit. It's very difficult to even get duck!

I guess I could kill the raccoons and alligators here for harvesting, but seeing as the raccoons eat human garbage, and the alligators eat the raccoons, I don't think it would be the healthiest hunter gatherer food on the planet.

I've been looking into goat and wild pig from slankers, as I've been without wild pig for about 6 months. Also, planning on doing some rabbit hunting as soon as the season allows, although since my neighborhood is full of them I might start bringing a slingshot and game bag on my nature hikes. That might get me kicked out of my apartment though...
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2010, 12:26:34 AM »
Good luck with that gnujoshua

Day 11 began with just tea and a few cherries mid morning - around lunch time I started making the horse ossobucco, first I diced onion, carrots, turnips, garlic and parsley and sweated it all off in tallow. Then I add water (no stock or wine) and I quickly browned the meat in tallow and added them to the stew. I cooked it very slowly for a few hours - I'd really like to get a solar oven for this sort of dish.

While it was cooking I had one of the bull fillets with some grilled asparagus. I had more cherries over the day and an orange then we had the ossobucco around 10pm - it was delicious and extremely tender, although my daughter insisted on adding salt (she's becoming a salt addict).

2 days with no beer and I'm feeling a little more normal (less farting) I still have an uncomfortable feeling of needing to go to the toilet but then not actually being able to - I was a regular couple of times a day man before.

Last night I had a distinct metallic taste in my mouth - something I had a few days ago as well.

Now I really need to address my exercise routine - I had a good swim on day 10 and felt great after it (as I usually do after exercise) but recently I've not been keeping up with it.   
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2010, 01:00:52 AM »
Day 12 tea and an orange for breakfast then bull steaks, asparagus, avocado and salad followed by cherries for lunch - kids both liked it. I didn't get chance to go to the market in the morning so I had to go to the supermarket instead - first time I'd been since I started on this diet. There wasn't much I fancied - the lamb and rabbit looked ok but the fish wasn't too good (and a lot of it was farmed from South America) - in the end I made a salad, boiled eggs, beetroot and to start we had the "soup" leftover from the ossobucco of day 11. It had solidified into jelly - it still had plenty of veg and some meat in it. 
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2010, 01:02:34 AM »
 Day 13 I bought one of the big rabbits (2.6 kg!) and made it into a stew with onion, leek, celery, carrots, garlic and parsley - we had it for both our meals today - starting with a bowl of the broth and then having the meat. Late morning I had some melon and I shared the rabbit liver with my son. Over the day I also had 3 peaches and a couple of oranges and a green salad with the evening meal.

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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 01:17:30 AM »
ok - Day 14 two weeks of the diet with no grains, pulses or dairy. I think I'm starting to eat more fruit than when I started (I've always eaten a lot and told the kids to help themselves to the fruit bowl). My daughter is complaining about missing her favourite pasta and rice dishes so I might have to occasionally make her something I'm not eating.

Yesterday I bought half a free range chicken, we had some of it grilled for lunch with a green salad. In the evening we had tuna omelette (3 eggs each). I also had a grapefruit, a big slice of watermelon, some cherries and several paraguayos (sort of flat peaches).

I still haven't got into any serious exercise yet!
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2010, 08:20:00 PM »
Day 15 was the rest of the chicken for lunch with asparagus done in the fat after it had been grilled - in the evening we went out and I had some ground beef made into fat sausage shapes and grilled. I had quite a lot of fruit over the day again. I'm planning a higher fat/lower fruit weekend.
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2010, 04:04:45 AM »
So - I've done about 3 weeks of paleo eating and all's well (including my insides!) I'm eating more or less as in the first two weeks - no strong cravings as yet. I feel I should be eating more fish but when I go to the market I get drawn to the meat. Fish fat gives as much energy as meat fat right?

I've also realised that pre paleo I was eating more garlic in pasta sauces (I've always been into fresh cooking even before I started paleo) - now my cooking tends to be grilled meat or fish and veg or salad - maybe I'll get into making more stews.

Today I've got fried asparagus and horse meat fillet - lamb, carrot and turnip stew tomorrow (the fatty cuts of lamb are the cheapest!) I just need to sort out an exercise routine.   
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2010, 05:58:38 AM »
Quote from: el cogollero on July 31, 2010, 04:04:45 AM
So - I've done about 3 weeks of paleo eating and all's well (including my insides!) I'm eating more or less as in the first two weeks - no strong cravings as yet. I feel I should be eating more fish but when I go to the market I get drawn to the meat. Fish fat gives as much energy as meat fat right?

Wild caught fish is probably superior even to grass fed beef with regards to the omega 3:6 ratio.
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2010, 11:42:00 AM »
yes - I really want to eat more fish - and the sardines and mackerel etc are very cheap. I think my body is enjoying a meat fat frenzy after all these years of me following the traditional advice of cutting down on red meat. Yesterday's lamb stew made with neck and ribs was lovely - I really enjoyed the fatty bits.

I still haven't found any coconut oil yet, but today I got some coconut milk and some palm oil. I made carrot juice with fresh ginger, cinnamon and coconut milk - delicious!

Also on the menu today is beef osso bucco stew with swedes and celeriac. I've decided to have August as an alcohol free month to see how I feel about it.    
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Re: Caveman eating in spain
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2010, 03:31:09 PM »
OT but what's el cogollero translated into english - I looked in a translator but it made no sense
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